chief joseph vann family tree

Don't know much about him. In writing of him the Reverend John Gamble, a Moravian missionary said: "Mrs. Gamble and I love him as our own child and have not a complaint against him. The Chief Vann House, built between 1804 and 1806 by the Cherokee leader James Vann, is called the "Showplace of the Cherokee Nation .". They got over in the Creek country and stood off the Cherokee officers that went to git them, but pretty soon they give up and come home. In the master's yard was the slave cabin, one room long, dirt floor, no windows. The grandparents were Joseph Vann, a Scottish trader who came from the Province of South Carolina, and Cherokee Mary Christiana (Wah-Li or Wa-wli Vann). Run it to the bank!" Mammy had the wagon and two oxen and we worked a good size patch there until she died, and then I git married to Cal Robertson to have somebody to take care of me. I never would hear much about the war that my father was in, but I know he fought for the North. 29 November 2015. http://www.accessgenealogy.com/black-genealogy/slave-narrative-of-b - Last updated on Aug 24th, 2012, VANN SLAVES REMEMBER 2003 By Herman McDaniel Murray County Museum. He was a Cherokee leader who owned Diamond Hill (now known as the Chief Vann House), many slaves, taverns, and steamboats that he operated on the Arkansas, Mississippi, Ohio, and Tennessee Rivers. She come up and put her nose on your just like this---nibble nibble, nibble. Some of the old chief's names was Gopher John, John Hawk and Wild Cat. A four mule team was hitched to the wagon and for five weeks we was on the road from Texas finally getting to grandma Brewer's at Fort Gibson. He made a deal with Dave Mounts, a white man, who was moving into the Indian country to drive for him. Mistress try to get de man to tell her who de negro belong to so she can buy him, but de man say he can't sell him and he take him on back to Texas wid a chain around his two ankles. When Mammy went old Mistress took me to de Big House to help her and she was kind to me like I was part of her own family. Source: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lpproots/Neeley/cvann.htm [3] Lucy Walker steamboat disaster, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_Walker_steamboat_disaster [1]. The only song I remember from the soldiers was" "Hang Jeff Davis to a Sour Apple Tree," and I remember that because they said he used to be at Fort Gibson one time. On October 23, 1844, the steamboat Lucy Walker departed Louisville, Kentucky, bound for New Orleans. The commissary was full of everyting good to eat. I had a silver dine on it, too, for a long time, but I took it off and got me a box of snuff. Joseph Vann, son of Chief Joseph Vann and his wife Margaret Scott Vann, married first, Jennie Springton, born December 23, 1804, died August 4, 1863. Everything was fine, Lord have mercy on me, yes. Two year old when my mamma died so I remember nothing of her, and most of my sisters and brothers dead too. All the Vann marsters was good looking. He had to work on the boat, though, and never got to come home but once in a long while. I don't know how old I is; some folks ay I'se ninety-two and some say I must be a hundred. but it sunk and him and old Master died. Seneca Chism was my father. The beautiful brick house was surrounded by kitchens, slave quarters and mills, with apple and peach orchards covering the adjacent hills. He had run off after he was sold and joined de North army and discharged at Fort Scoot in Kansas, and he said lots of freedmen was living close to each other up by Coffeyville in the Coo-ee-scoo-wee District. Again the Indian command system lost the Chickamauga their last chance to carry their colors to the Clinch River. Pappy was the shoe-maker and he used wooden pegs of maple to fashion the shoes. Them Pins was after Master all de time for a while at de first of de War, and he was afraid to ride into Ft. Smith much. I had on my old clothes for the wedding, and I ain't had any good clothes since I was a little slave girl. My mother, grandmother, aunt Maria and cousin Clara, all worked in the big house. He wouldn' take us way off, but just for a ride. Soon as you come out of the water you go over there and change clothes. He was descended from Robert The Bruce, King of Scotland. Young Master Joe let us have singing and be baptised if we want to, but I wasnt baptized till after the war. I had a brother named Harry who belonged to the Vann family at Tahlequah. Old Mistress cried jest like any of de rest of us when de boat pull out with dem on it. 1795(Chas.Fox Taylor)(John Stidham,Sr. Born on February 11, 1789, he was also a planter, and businessman who owned slaves, and steamboats among others. Cremation arrangements under the care of Jenkins Funeral Home, Burnet, Texas. Chief Vann House Historic Site 22.44 KMs away from Cohutta Wilderness The Chief Vann House Historic Site is a 19th century plantation house that has been carefully restored to its original grandeur. Mistress say old Master and my pappy on the boat somewhere close to Louisville and the boiler bust and tear the boat up. Betty was born May 21,1943 to A.R. She won me lots of money, Black Hock did, and I kept it in the Savings Bank in Tahlequah. My husband was a Cherokee born Negro, too, and when he got mad he forgit all the English he knowed. Coming out of the army for the last time, Pappa took all the family and moved to Fort Scott, Kansas, but I guess he feel more at home wid the Indians for pretty soon we all move back, this time to a farm near Fort Gibson. I don't know what dey done it for, only to be mean, and I guess they was drunk. Half brother of James Fields; Lucy Hicks; Isabel Wolf; Delila Fields; Charles Timberlake and 8 others; Jesse Vann; Delilah Amelia McNair; Joseph Vann; James Vann; Sarah 'Sally' Nicholson (Vann); John Hon John Vann; Robert B. In summer when it was hot, the slaves would sit in the shade evenings and make wooden spoons out of maple. Dey didn't let us have much enjoyment. One and a half years after the war we all come back to the old plantation. That mean't she want a biscuit with a little butter on it. Lord, Yes! The place was all woods, and the Cherokees and the soldiers all come down to see the baptizing. It is located at the intersection of U.S. Highway 76 and Georgia 225 in Murray County, on the outskirts of Chatsworth in northwest Georgia. After several days of pursuit, the Indians caught up with the escaped slaves and a heated battle inflicted casualties on both sides. They got over in the Creak country and stood off the Cherokee officers that went to git them, but pretty soon they give up and come home. The land was timbered and the oldest children clear the land, or start to do the work while Pappa go back to Tahlequah to get my sick mamma and the rest of the family. Chief Joseph David VANN passed awayon 1844in in boat race on Ohio River, Indiana. But de Big House ain't hurt cepting it need a new roof. Deutsche Bahn Regional. While attending the American Board college in Cornwall, Connecticut, he met and married Harriet Gold. That house was on the place my papa said he bought from Billy Jones in 1895. After de War was over, Old Master tell me I am free but he will look out after me cause I am just a little negro and I ain't got no sense. My referees on the grant application were Dame Sian Elias, Chief Justice of New Zealand, and Sir David Williams, University of Cambridge. (Note: Can we assume this is the same Joseph Vann that was given 150 acres below Keg Creek on the Savannah River (Dec 1764).It is 9 years later and there are 4 more children. We had to have a pass to go any place to have signing or praying, and den they was always a bunch of patrollers around to watch everything we done. He was a traveler, didn't stay home much. sse Vann, James Clement Jr. Vann, Mary Vann, Delila Copeland (born Vann), John Vann, John Vann, Joseph Vann, John Vann, Mary Vann, Robert sse Vann, James Clement Jr. Vann, Mary Vann, Delila Copeland (born Vann), John Vann, John Vann, Joseph H Vann, John Vann, Mary Vann, Robe James (Ti-ka-lo-hi) (James Wahli Vann Etc. Upon being brought to Fort Gibson, five slaves were held to stand trial for murdering the two bounty hunters. She come up and put her nose on your just like this---nibble nibble, nibble. He never come until the next day, so dey had to sleep in dat pen in a pile like hogs. They'd sell 'em to folks at picnics and barbecues. When de War come old Master seen he was going into trouble and he sold off most of de slaves. Everything was fine, Lord have mercy on me, yes. Sometimes just white folks danced; sometimes just the black folks. My husband didn't give me nothing. He was accidentally killed in the explosion of one of his boats, the "Lucy Walker" which was blown up near Louisville, Kentucky on October 26, 1844. The slaves had a pretty easy time I think. The other tribes were the Chickasaw, Choctaw, Creek, and Seminole.. I remember when the steamboats went up and down the river. Christmas lasted a whole month. James Vann was a powerful chief in the Cherokee Nation and had several other wives and children. At the time that the interviews were conducted, the Vanns had been gone from Georgia for more than 100 yearsconsequently none of the slaves the Vanns owned in Spring Place were still alive. Wupsi. My mother was seamstress. One day young Master come to the cabins and say we all free and cant stay there lessn we want to go on working for him just like wed been, for our feed and clothes. My mother Betsy Vann, worked in the big house for the missus. I wore a stripedy shirt till I was about 11 years old and den one day while we was down in the Choctaw Country old Mistress see me and nearly fall off her horse. Section 1 is called "Vann Ancestry and Early History" and will include only John Vann's ancestry up to his generation. After the Removal, Joseph Vann was chosen the first Assistant Chief of the united Cherokee Nation under the new 1839 Constitution that was created in Indian Territory (Oklahoma), serving with Principal Chief John Ross. The following slave narratives all mention the Vanns. The master's house was a big log building setting east and west, with a porch on the north side of the house. Old Mistress had a good cookin stove, but most Cherokees had only a big fireplace and pot hooks. He had to work on the boat, though, and never got to come home but once in a long while. We had seven horses and a litle buffalo we'd raised from when its little. He come to our house and Mistress said for us Negroes to give him something to eat and we did. Web. I don't remember old Mistress name. We patted her grave and kissed the ground telling her goodbye. Joe had two wives, one was named Missus Jennie. Pappy worked around the farms and fiddled for the Cherokee dances. Master's name was Joe Sheppard, and he was a Cherokee Indian. When dat Civil War come along I was a pretty big boy and I remember it good as anybody. I had me a good blaze-faced horse for dat. The slave cabins was in a row, and we lived in one of them. Sometime Young Master Joe and the other boys give me a piece of money and say I worked for it, and I reckon I did for I have to cook five or six times a day. He was a Native American Cherokee leader, businessman, slave owner, and planter. Women came in satin dresses, all dressd up, big combs in their hair, lots of rings and bracelets. Another time his officer give him a message; he was on his way to deliver it when the enemy spy him and cry out to stop, but father said he kept on going until he was shot in the leg. Sometimes she pull my hair. Although Lucinda Vann was owned by Jim Vann, she told about the death of "Rich Joe" Vann and the recovery of one of his arms, following the deadly explosion on his steamboat, the Lucy Walker. 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chief joseph vann family tree